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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:
. @" f9 K/ J, A/ O' d- Y公仔箱論壇8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokestvb now,tvbnow,bttvb1 W7 q+ u4 V0 g/ `  T
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
( P9 H: D  Y; \+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes- m5 C; j5 U( U$ S9 e% `- L0 c
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11., i% |4 z5 W; P) {8 [9 Z$ Z
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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